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Jessica Leeds: ‘Trump sexually attacked me’

Businesswoman Jessica Leeds testified Tuesday in E. Jean Carroll’s civil defamation and battery case against former President Donald Trump that Trump had groped her during a flight to New York in 1979, in what Carroll’s attorneys said showed a pattern of behavior on Trump’s part. Leeds is one of two women who the court has ruled are allowed to testify about prior alleged assaults by Trump, who is accused by Carroll of defaming the former Elle magazine columnist in a 2022 Truth Social post by calling her allegations “a Hoax and a lie” and saying “This woman is not my type!” when he denied her claim that Trump raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing room in the 1990s. The Associated Press has the story:

Jessica Leeds: ‘Trump sexually attacked me’

Newslooks- NEW YORK (AP)

A woman who says Donald Trump silently molested her on an airliner in the late 1970s testified Tuesday in support of the writer who alleges that a flirtatious 1996 encounter with the future president ended in a violent sexual attack.

Jessica Leeds, right, arrives to federal court to testify as part of a lawsuit against Donald Trump in New York, Tuesday, May 2, 2023. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

Jessica Leeds, 81, of Asheville, North Carolina, said Trump accosted her with what seemed like “40 zillion hands.” She joined other witnesses who supported the testimony of E. Jean Carroll, a longtime advice columnist who publicly aired her claims against Trump in 2019, when she published a memoir. Trump has repeatedly denied the claims, saying Carroll lied to sell books and disparage him.

Lisa Birnbach arrives to federal court to testify as part of a lawsuit against former President Donald Trump in New York, Tuesday, May 2, 2023. E. Jean Carroll, a former magazine columnist on Monday wrapped up three days of testimony in the trial stemming from her lawsuit against Trump. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

The witnesses were meant to support Carroll’s testimony over three days ending Monday that Trump raped her in the dressing room of a luxury department store in midtown Manhattan.

Lisa Birnbach, a longtime friend of Carroll, testified that an emotional and hyperventilating Carroll telephoned her minutes after her encounter with Trump to report what occurred. She said she told Carroll that Carroll had been raped and urged her to go to the police, but Carroll refused, leading them to argue before Birnbach agreed never to speak of it again.

Lisa Birnbach arrives to federal court to testify as part of a lawsuit against former President Donald Trump in New York, Tuesday, May 2, 2023. E. Jean Carroll, a former magazine columnist on Monday wrapped up three days of testimony in the trial stemming from her lawsuit against Trump. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

Leeds said she was in her late 30s and working in sales when she was invited by a flight attendant aboard a daytime flight from Dallas or Atlanta to New York to sit in the only empty aisle seat in the first-class cabin.

“The gentleman sitting by the window introduced himself as Donald Trump,” she said.

Conversation between the pair was mostly forgettable, Leeds recalled, as they ate a nice meal, before “all of a sudden Trump decided to kiss me and grope me.”

E. Jean Carroll arrives to federal court in New York, Tuesday, May 2, 2023. Carroll on Monday wrapped up three days of testimony in the trial stemming from her lawsuit against former President Donald Trump. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

“There was no conversation. It was like out of the blue. It was like a tussle. He was trying to kiss me, trying to pull me towards him. He was grabbing my breasts. It was like he had 40 zillion hands. It was like a tussling match between the two of us,” she recalled.

Leeds said the standoff ended when she realized no aircraft employees were coming to the rescue and Trump seemed to get more aggressive.

A protester writes “We Believe Her”, referring to E. Jean Carroll, in chalk on the sidewalk in front of the Manhattan federal courthouse in New York, Tuesday, May 2, 2023. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

“It was when he started putting his hand up my skirt that gave me strength. I managed to wriggle out of my seat and storm back to my seat in coach. I don’t think there was a word or a sound made by either one of us,” she recalled.

Asked to describe how long the encounter took, Leeds said “it seemed like forever, but it probably was just a few seconds.”

E. Jean Carroll arrives to federal court in New York, Tuesday, May 2, 2023. Carroll on Monday wrapped up three days of testimony in the trial stemming from her lawsuit against former President Donald Trump. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

When the plane landed, Leeds recalled, she remained on the plane until everyone else had left to avoid running into Trump again.

The Associated Press typically does not name people who say they have been sexually assaulted unless they come forward publicly, as Carroll and Leeds have done.

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